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6:00 p.m. eastern tomorrow right here on cnn. in the mean time you can always follow what's going on behind-the-scenes in the situation room. i'm on twitter at wolf blitzer cnn all one word. thanks very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in the situation room. john king usa starts right now. >> thanks, we're live from venice, louisiana. a fwrity yet gorgeous fishing village on the front lines against war of the bp oil spill. many important develops on this day 53. it was a special day for us. an exclusive look to rescue the gulf's endangered sea turtles. we begin tonight with another major breaking news story. flash flooding in arkansas that left 16 people dead and 37 others missing. it hit a campground around 2:00 a.m. joining us now with the latest on the search's rescue efforts
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is senator blanche lincoln. let me start with the missing. what do you know about the search effort and how high the death toll could go? >> our arkansas first responders were on the scene quickly and we first and foremost want to make sure that our heart goes tout the families and loved ones that lost lives and certainly this terrible disaster and pray for a quick rescue and recovery for those that are still missing, the first responders were out there. and we certainly pray for our emergency personnel. i'll be touring the site tomorrow with secretary vilsack. the red cross is down on the ground. they said it's enormously rough down there and we've had both our red cross teams from across the state of arkansas as well as other states that have been there on the ground. we got the arkansas department of emergency management and fema
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working together. so we got everybody on the ground. we got the national guard as well. the red cross is set up at a church down there and then the kirby school gym open for housing families. most of those people are there with nothing but the shirt on their back. they lost everything. and whether they were camping or whether they were residents that were within the forest service area, they pretty much are left with nothing. so we do have the search and rescue going and we just want to keep them in our hopes and prayers that we can fine those that are still missing. >> i've been in this part of your beautiful state, senator. it's gorgeous and breathtaking but very remote. has the remoteness complicated the search and rescue services. were there enough resources. because you had to travel the distance did it complicate? >> you're exactly right. the remote nature led to many thing. one, there was no forewarning of
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the flash floods, the remote area of the nature the radars don't catch low traveling storms which can be some of the most dangerous. so there wasn't a lot of warning time at all to anybody there. cell service is spotty at best. certainly the steep ravines and steep nature of the mountains as well as the valleys where the rivers are makes it very difficult. we have helicopters in there and we got the national guard over in oklahoma, i believe sent over a helicopter. there's helicopters now in the area helping with the search and rescue which is very helpful in that very steep terrain. and as you said it's extremely remote. >> senator lincoln, we appreciate your time today. now on to today's other big story. the gulf oil spill.
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in a moment we'll give you a look at a remarkable effort to save sea turtle from the spill. it will make you smile. first, the developments you need know. the numbers driving this crisis keep changing. as i noted it's day 53. the president is planning his fourth trip to the gulf coast. bp says nearly 89,000 barrels of oil have been collected in its container ships since it put its cap in place last week. oil continues to spew into the gulf and we may never know the exact amount. the government estimates this disaster dwarfs the exxon valdez roughly seven times the amount of oil poured into a sensitive eco system. among those people increasingly irritated with the growing flow read is louisiana governor bobby jindal. >> at the beginning we were told there was no oil leak. maybe 1,000 barrels. maybe 5,000 barrels. then we were told maybe it's 12 to 19,000 barrels. now we're told maybe it's 20 to 40,000 barrels.
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there's a chance to be 20% more than that because they cut the riser. >> let's discuss the big developments. james carville our cnn contributor joins us from new orleans and with me here in venice is the president of plaquemine parish who has been sharply critical of the federal effort. when you heard last night, oh, the estimates being doubled, seven times the exxon valdez out there, this is your community, these are your fishing boats right here that can't go out and do their work. what went through your mind >> another blow. that much longer, that much more oil that will wash ashore at some point. if they cap it tomorrow we're looking at six months a year maybe some people estimate two or three years before all that oil will come ashore. it just keeps going and keeps growing and the story keeps changing. and, you know, i wish we could get the truth and have someone look us in the eye and tell us the truth. >> you were in washington
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yesterday and you were sharply critical in your testimony saying you're having problems with both bp and the coast guard saying they can't give you answers, they don't act quickly, their stories keep changing. today in his briefing, thad allen the incident commander, he pushed back a little bit. he said after the early rough days which he won't seed were rough the coast guard put a liaison with each one of the parish presidents. i want you to listen to thad allen. >> the gentleman said give me your problem was. who did you ask. we've had coast guard guys standing next to those guys for three weeks. >> he says you've had a coast guard guy standing next to you. >> a great man by the name sam sits in our office. that's not getting the job done out there. it took us three weeks to get the vac. it took the governor going out there to get the vac. we shouldn't have to fifrgtry
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step of the way to get -- if you got a better tool than the vacuum, show it to us and use it. but don't fight us on everything we ask for. i'll be at home tomorrow presenting another plan with additional equipment that ought to be out there already. should have been out there three, four weeks ago. why is it taking so long for them to get it? and i'm trying to be patient. but weeks and weeks and weeks, we went for three hours with the new head of bp. he saw it in the bay, in the marsh, on the barrier islands. he admitted where we're pumping is work. we didn't see one skimmer boat. he said this is unacceptable. yet thad allen says we're getting it done. absolutely not. >> let's bring james carville in on the conversation. james, another question that came up, this the day after the oil is seven times the exxon valdez. thad allen was asked this, do
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you trust bp? >> you know, i get the trust word all the time. the fact of the matter is we have to have a cooperative productive relationship for this to move forward. when i talk to them i get answers. but this is to be a unified effort to get this thing moving. >> i know he's in the military not in politics but was that a yes or no or sort of a maybe? >> well, i think when you're an admiral a corporal will defer to your answer. look, some of the things here are governed by the 1990 spill act. and for thrive of me i don't understand this bill, i don't think it anticipated soemething of this magnitude. the president has to amend some
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of this legislation. people are frustrated because there's too much to deal with here and the coast guard is trying to level out the bureaucracy. but you can't have this many people complaining about so much and not have something valid at the root it. and maybe the problem is the presidential involvement, maybe some statutory changes here. >> i got a lot of specifics to cover tonight. i want to ask both of you at the top of the show, especially as we close out the week a bigger picture question. i ran into a woman. she's lived in her trailer for five years. she thinks next moshe will move into her house. she said things move slowly down here. her take she said she can't watch the coverage of this spill. she says you just wait give it a week or two we'll be forgotten. are you worried about that? >> if it hits the florida beaches in large volumes we might not get the coverage.
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and the simple thing is you can pick it up off the beach. you've seen that. you can't pick it up off the marsh. it destroys the life where the lifecycles begin. i still don't think thad allen or bp gets it because there's not enough equipment out there to keep it out of the marsh. she's right we will be forgotten. >> 25% of the seafood eaten in this country come off of these waters. do you think a month from now, six months from now, a year from now, we'll still try to figure out the environmental impact, will this be forgotten? >> everything history tells us that it absolutely will. what that woman said, she's been totally conditioned by the history of south louisiana. they cut canals, built bad levees. the engineering is horrible. they didn't check transition. and the entire history of this region has been one of the country taking it for granted for raping it, for plundering it, for depriving us of
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everything we do and that woman is absolutely right and i have no doubt in my mind that we were treated differently in casey anthony if it hit some where else. if this spill hit long island sound that response would have been entirely different. you have very justified and vindicated in your belief and it's up to the people at this time we're going to draw the line in the mud and tell the rest of the country that we've had enough and we've had enough of the whole thing and billy's parish is disappearing faster than any plot of land in the united states. people have been complaining about it. the country has turned a deaf ear to it. i got to tell you the oil is gushing up from that gusher and the resentment is gushing up here in south louisiana. it's well justified and it's steeped in history and steeped in accurate history. >> james and billy, stay with us. we'll take a quick break. we're live tonight in a spectacular fishing community now threatened by this spill, venice, louisiana. when we come back we'll explore
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we're live tonight from the marina in venice, louisiana. it is a gritty, gorgeous fishing village. many boats idled by the gulf oil spill. the water has closed fishing the livelihood of this community. we're back to continue the conversation with the president of this parish and james carville. i had a conversation with the governor during this trip and he says one of his bigger question, they don't know how much oil is spewing in. they don't know how much is in the water. he says looking down the road one of the questions he keeps asking, what is in those dispersants they are using to break up the oil to keep it from shore but the question is what will those chemicals do to the water and sea life. the governor was very
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frustrated. >> we see the concentrations. we don't know what to test for in our seafood. we need to know twhoobt looking for. at first they wouldn't give us the ingredients. they now want us to sign a nondisclosure agreement. we're fighting that. our people have a right to know what chemicals are there. we have a right to know what's being put in the water. so we have some guarantee so we can protect ourselves. >> do you know what to tell these guys? will you be able to fish in five weeks or five years? >> you see that orange coming in that's just not oil. that's going to stay offshore. that orange coming, the bp representative that went out with this said you can see the dispersants in this. it's not in that. it's in this not in that. he was identifying right there off our coast. it's made it to the breeding grounds. we won't know and they won't disclose it. that's criminal.
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the federal government demand they disclose everything and we're still spring it. i personally think it's causing more problems because it's keeping the oil -- it's hiding the oil. if they didn't spray and it all came to the. top we could capture it and lift it out. it's like they did it to hide the oil. >> they pay based on how much oil is coming out? >> i got to believe that. >> james, what do you say when the governor says i can't tell my health department what to test for so we check back in six month, two years, five years to make sure there's not long term impact? >> the manufacturer of that dispersant claims that they have given the ingredients and that they are harmless. the people at tulane said the dispersant is harmless. lisa jackson is a highly trained engineer. i don't think she would do something that would harm. but, you know, we don't have the research on what this dispersant
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effect is on seafood we need. it's important to note that there is another side to this story. myself i have no idea. i'm not trained in this kind of thing. i do know that the tulane environmental people who i suspect are pretty skilled seem to think this stuff is not as dangerous as some people do. but it's something that needs to be discussed, it needs to be aired out and we have to hear every side of this issue. >> sunlight as we say. more public information we have less question and less debate. we want you to now consider this. the dispersant issue matters when people talk about the long term habitat. for the species that live there. here's some pictures of endangered sea turtles taken from the oily waters. the immediate priority is to save their lives. scientists doing that have some long term troubling questions. >> we do have teams out in the gulf, both shore line as well as in open water. they are actively trying to find
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the animals as quickly as they can. this is the area where the oil turtles come in to. get an initial exam. >> we clean them up on the boat very well. not bad. >> we've collected 35 live oiled turtles to date. we then bring them into rehabilitation. take care of them long term. >> this was a 136 pound turtle when it came in. when will you do? >> we're doing regular exams to make sure all the oil is out of her system. when she's healthy and as normal as we think she will be we'll return them. most of these turtles are being flown to florida to be released in a clean environment. time is very bad for sea turtles. females are coming up to lay eggs. this is one of the turtles caught out on the water. >> what do you look fortin first couple of days? >> we're testing their blood. some of these turtles have come
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in to us with low blood glucose so they are not eating real well. >> what's in their food >> that's an excellent question. we know that oil is out there. it will be taken up in the food chain. there will be long term exposure, turtles, mammals and birds to oil on an ongoing basis. >> what about during the efforts out there now when the dispersants are dropped. >> we don't have a lot of information as far as the effects of dispersants on these species. >> up have experience going back to valdez. put this into context in terms of the scope of the damage. >> we have over 150 people out there actually caring for the peoples and trained to capture them. just the sheer vastness of the response is very different. when do you think you'll be comfortable saying, you know, here's what happened snipe think it will take a long time because there's so much oil in the environment. because the oil has been dispersed under sea, there's a
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large volume in the water. i think we're going to know as far as the acute effects how many animals died and how many animals were collected. but stars the long term population effects, we're still learning some of the effects from exxon valdez even today. i do think it might even take decades. >> just a remarkable effort there. they deserve our praise and support as they try to save this wildlife. coming up, telling bp show me the money. we'll have the latest on their payment of claims possibly even cutting their dividends. we'll go one on one with the mississippi governor. he said something president obama has planned has prohibiting tickled to death. what message do you have for the people of the gulf and bp. in the play-by-play we heard from all four gulf governors during our tour this week. what do they have in common? where do they disagree. here president obama kicking a. oh, phillips' colon health probiotic plus fiber.
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we've learned so much as we've spent this past week along the gulf coast and along the way
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we had a chance to talk to the governors of louisiana, alabama and florida. that left mississippi. this afternoon i had chance to go one on one with the republican governor haley barber. governor, the government now says the amount of oil flowing no the gulf of mexico is probably twice as much as originally estimated now in the ballpark of seven times the exxon valdez. does that change your perspective of the scope of this spill and the risk to your state of mississippi? >> well of course it changes the scope because there's a lot more oil. now, as i understand it the numbers that they put out yesterday were the total flow did not include the 15,000 barrels that's being captured by their cap or whatever they call it. but, yeah, it means that much more oil is in the gulf and it means there's that much more that has to be either dispersed, burned, skimmed or whatever. and it also means that there's higher likelihood it will get to
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mississippi. we have not had any intrusion of oil on to mississippi's beaches. we had one intrusion on one of the barrier islands. came up one day and washed out the next day and left no -- you couldn't tell it had even fwlbe there. you chastised my business, saying we scared people from coming out. but you say it's a wake up call. >> we had a small amount of oil a week ago on monday without it being seen by our flotilla that's supposed to be out there watching for the oil. that's what the wake up call was. the biggest economic damage for mississippi is that we've had a tremendous number of cancelations, whether of fishing trips or family vacations, and that's where all of our economic damage -- most all of our economic damage has been done. unlike our friends in louisiana,
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who have had a terrible thing to deal with, that simply hasn't happened here and the news coverage does not make the differentiation. everybody i see from california to new york thinks the mississippi gulf coast is ankle deep in oil and that's simply not the case. >> i saw your friend, governor jindal here yesterday in louisiana. he was white hot at the president. he said with this deep water moratorium he's adding an economic catastrophe on top of an environmental catastrophe for the gulf region. the white house says look we don't know what caused the spill and until we can study it and find out what new safety precaution might be necessary, the president says he's not going to take the risk. who is right? >> well i agree with governor jindal. this is not a question where it's all the rights on the one side. the president, i know, believe he's being prudent. but look when an airplane
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crashes we don't shut down the airlines until we figure out why it crashed. and this is the first time in 30 plus thousand drillings that this happened. and it's a terrible thing. we need to get to the bottom it. but day not believe that we need to stop all drilling. and i'll tell you why. it's more than just jobs lost in the gulf region. that would be terrible. huge economic negative impact. and the idea that these oil rigs, 33 of them that were out there drilling wells in deep water are going to sit around here for six months during this moratorium and then be here to start drilling and we're going to -- the idea we're only going to lose six months of drilling is just wrongheaded. those oil wells, those oil drilling rigs will be off west africa, indonesia, china, brazil, russia. they will be all over the world because they are so expensive they are not going to let them idle. and frankly, as you know, john,
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the two big companies here that are involved in this spill, bp and transocean are not even american companies. they don't feel compelled to stay in america. they will go wherever the business is and some of these rigs won't come back for years and years. the ten worst oil sprinkles american history, one was from an oil well, seven were from ships carrying oil at sea. we have more ships carrying oil at sea because of this moratorium. >> the president is coming to your state next week with mississippi. you have tensions with the president? you don't want to be photographed with him? >> no. look when george bush came to the gulf coast many times after katrina, i never went to see him unless he came to mississippi. i certainly didn't have any issues with george bush. i got no problem with president obama. we're tickled to death he's coming monday. he's known that the red carpet was out for whenever he want to
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come. it's a huge, huge, huge different problem over there from what we got. >> former massachusetts governor mitt romney wrote this week. he said america needs a leader not a politician. you think president obama is being a politician not a leader? >> look, it doesn't serve any purpose for me to critique how the president has done or hasn't done. i'll tell generally just as i told you after katrina, the federal government has tried hard to do everything we've asked them to do. bp, by the way, has tried to do everything we asked them to do. i'm not going to pile on the president. i see the polls. i can read. but it serves no purpose for me to criticize him. not going to. >> what about bp. i've been in florida and alabama and spoken to the governors there in both states.
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spoke to the governor here in louisiana. all of them have complaints about the bp claim process saying their businesses impacted are waiting too long. what's your experience in mississippi? >> we found with bp, first of all, we didn't think they moved quickly muff to hire mississippi companies and mississippi employees to defend. they corrected that. we thought their pr effort at the beginning was almost non-existent. they tried to correct that. we still think they need be pushing more vessels of opportunity out south of our barrier islands to fight off this oil before it gets to us. and that's our plan in mississippi. it's not wait until the oil comes on to our beaches, but to try to skim it, burn it, disperse it, whatever, outside the barrier islands and every foot between there and the shore. >> our thanks to governor barber. we'll check in with him when the president visits his state next
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in wall to wall tonight a look at bp's financial standing and its worldwide operations as it prepares to battle and not only the government but the oil spill off this coast. times of london is reporting bp is planning to defer the dividend -- put the dividend money into escrow until it determines its liability from the gulf oil spill. bp executive told the "wall street journal" today, we're considering all options in the dividend but no decision has been made. the house speaker nancy pelosi in washington today joined a growing number of u.s. politicians who say do not dare pay that dividend until you clean up this gulf. >> the responsibility before they spend this money on advertising saying how they will pay every claim, they should pay
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the claims and they should do that before they go forward with additional dividends. >> now, follow the bars here. the yellow bar shows the $52 million bp has paid in claims so far. that compares to $2.5 billion in second quarter dividends bp had been planning to pay to shareholders. there's 42,000 claims filed so far. the company says 20,000 of them have at least been partially paid. how big is bp? it has operations all over the world. 11 rigs in africa. 18 in asia and the middle east. 25 in europe. four in north america. one in australia one in new zealand. bp in between posted a profit of $17 billion. at the moment the company has $152.6 billion market value. but take at that look at these numbers. on april 20th bp stock price was
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$6.40 a share. june 9th, $29.20. date closed just shy of $34 as the stock price has gone down look at the arrow going up. that is the rising oil flow. we were told earlier on it was 1,000 barrels a day. now the estimate perhaps 40,000 barrels a day. when we come back we'll continue our conversation here. we'll go on our radar with james carville and bobby jindal. we'll talk about the oil spill and the day's other big news. but in business, only two matter: red and black. red, well, no one wants that. black on the other hand, has strength. black is always in style. it's what business looks best in. black is where growth and success happen, and it's easier to get there and stay there in ontario, canada, especially with our competitive tax rate. ♪ ontario, canada - the world works here.
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we're determined as always to bring you into the conversation. so every monday we ask a question and give you all week
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to make your case by posting a video on our website. this week's question, what is your message to the people in the gulf region. here's a sampling of your answers. >> it's a real tragedy going on in the gulf coast and i really wish the government and the authorities work hand-in-hand with the people on the ground. >> i'm very sorry for the people on the gulf coast and i hope obama is doing what he can to fix the situation. >> they should do everything they can to get some aid from the federal government because it was the federal government's responsibility to solve their situation. and they did not do it. >> don't ever let bp off the hook. ever. >> we've learned a lot about your way of life. we all value even though we don't visit there, that culture and that natural beauty remain.
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let's bring our cnn contributor james carville and plaquemine parish president. billy is here with me. when you hear the people there pouring out their hearts. after katrina and rita your state was flooded with volunteers from all around the country. in some cases all around the world. do you need a similar outpouring or is this different? >> i think most of the battle -- we don't need the volunteers but we do need the people to speak up to their congressman and senators, because the action on the ground here and bp is not being held accountable and this could happen anywhere in the country. and we need to have a plan as we mentioned. the only thing that's getting done is the governor or local leaders pushing bp to do. it shouldn't be that way. they should be out there full force throwing everything but the kitchen sink at this and it's not happening. >> do you think, james, that outpouring of support will continue.
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if you do online at or the other internet websites, this story has begun to go down. people are paying less attention. not as urgently checking in on the information. >> well, you know, that's human nature. there will be something else. henry ford said history was just one thing after another. that's why it's important to sort of keep the focus here. unlike katrina, this stuff is just going to keep coming up and this is very incy dious. by my count we might be a third to 40% of the way through it all. we got -- what i think of how much left there is to come at us, it's actually sickening. that's one of the thing that i hope the president does is somebody has to level with us because we're not even two months into this, and i don't see they are going to get this relief well down there. nobody believes they will do it until october.
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if that's the case it's going to be a very -- the gulf will be a big mess out there. so, it's up to people in the press and up to people in louisiana and the gulf region to keep the focus on this. you're right people's concentration. can't blame them. they will move on to something else. >> let's keep our focus on this as we move on to some stories on my radar today. british officials getting defensive about u.s. officials beating up on bp. get a load of how britain's new deputy told the prime minister said hey, tone it down. >> everybody is united, both sides of the atlantic. obviously quite right, understandably within the u.s. administration and i'm sure within bp itself to deal with this problem. >> you were shaking your head. >> unbelievable. does it run in that country the ignorance.
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to make those kind of statements? nick hasn't been here to touch toil. teen new bp man in charge when he put his hand in the oil he said it's a lot different when you come out here. the incompetence and comments by people -- are they just that heartless? i mean, this is a tragedy that has, as james said has only just begun. we have a tropical storm that brings that oil and lays it across coastal louisiana we're wiped out for the next 20 years. this community will be dead. they are talk being like we're being too tough? if bp stepped up to threat and did the right thing we wouldn't be standing here. we would be working side by suicide them. they didn't do their job. >> the special relationship, james. is this spill going to hurt u.s.-british relations? >> no. but if i looked real hard this way, john, around the bend i couldn't see it but 195 years ago we had a little scuffle with
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for those of you just joining us, we're live tonight from venice, louisiana. tonight there is breaking news in arkansas, though. here is what you need to know right now. at least 16 people are dead and 36 missing after flash floods swept away campers in a remote mountainous area in western arkansas. 300 people may have been in the albert pike recreation area. survivors say the water rose as swiftly as eight fight an hour sweeping away tents, cars and overturning suvs. here comes the play-by-play. friday night play-by-play. we're back. james carville joins us from new orleans. billy none guess, the president of this parish is with us right here in venice, louisiana. yesterday i talked to one of your colleagues, lafourche president with the president out on grand isle. she was in picturing shown all
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around the world when president obama came her. i talked to her last night. she has been pressing to get the deep water moratorium lifted. she said she now feels used. >> the other morning i heard him say he was looking for some butt to kick. what he doesn't realize is he really is kick our butt right now. >> you were in all the pictures the other day when the president was here, and you're out walking, assessing some of the damage. do you regret that in any way? >> no, i don't. no, i don't. i think he has an agenda. and this is certainly working into his agenda. right now we're the poster children for alternative energy. >> she says last night we're the poster children for alternative energy. here is a tweet barack obama put out just today. stand with me in backing clean energy. send a clear message that the american people are ready for a clean energy future. >> let me tell you. we know three nights before this explosion there were problems on the rig. people asked to be removed. i've been in the oil field my
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whole life before i was elected parish president. every time there has been a problem offshore, there has been a disagreement before the problem between the pushing the company man. we proposed to the president a 66-man plan. 33 men on and 33 crew change every week. retired engineers appointed by the president, a federal air marshall out there could stop the well at any time he saw a decision with safety. that alone would make the gulf 100% safer tomorrow, not in six months. also the devices used in the uk, the half million device that would be a back upton the blowout preventer. those are two things you can do tomorrow, let them keep drilling and increase the safety 900%. but it's not as politically popular as placing a moratorium. >> james, you helped bill clinton get to the white house in 1992. a lot of people look at the governor of this state, bobby jindal as problems a future
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presidential candidate. when he gave a response to the president's speech a while back, he was panned. i want you to listen to bobby jindal now and then. >> the way to lead is by empowering you, the american people. because we believe that americans can do anything. this isn't an inconvenience to someone who can't pay their bills. this isn't an inconvenience to the birds, the pelicans that have been in oil. this isn't an inconvenience to the marshlands that are dying. this isn't an inconvenience to the thousands of louisianans who are directly impacted that worry about their ability to make a lifrg off the coast. >> when he is outdoors and has a cries shirks has a bit more adrenaline. >> i want to give my 100 support to the nungesser plan to resume drilling that makes a lot of sense and sign me up as a co-sponsor of it. >> thank you. >> i think the governor has gone around and fought for things during this time. and i think he has done a lot better. and i think people acknowledge that and give him credit for it.
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>> all right. i want to thank james and billy for spending the hour with us tonight, both on a first-name basis. it's friday night in new orleans. the tourists still coming? pete is on bourbon street. that's the street to be on, when we come back. if those boxes are under 70 lbs. you don't have to weigh 'em. with these priority mail flat rate boxes from the postal service, if it fits, it ships anywhere in the country for a low flat rate. no weigh? nope. no way. yeah. no weigh? sure. no way! uh-uh. no way. yes way, no weigh. priority mail flat rate box shipping starts at $4.95, only from the postal service. a simpler way to ship.
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candy crowley is filling in for campbell brown tonight. let's head up to new york and get a sense of what is coming up at the top of the hour. >> hi, john. we'll have the very latest on the flash flood that destroyed an arkansas campsite, killing at least 16 people. dozens still missing. arkansas governor mike beebe will join us. and the latest on the cleanup in the gulf there is a talk of a kind of marshall plan to help rebuild the area. john?
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let the good times roll. but what about the tourists? are they letting the spill get in the way of a good time? who better to find out than our own pete dominick. >> hey, john king. i'm down here in new orleans, or new orleans as we call it up north. either way, i'm on the historic french quarter bourbon street. i want to go out and ask people that have any thoughts or hesitation about coming down here due to the gulf oil disaster. >> concerned about everything. >> i'm not. >> you're not concerned? why not, sir. >> i believe they can straighten it out and clean it up. >> did you think about not coming because of the oil? >> we were questioning it on the way to see. we weren't sure how it was going to be down here. >> i thought we shouldn't come here. >> but you came anyway. >> it's beautiful. >> absolutely not. >> never thought about not coming? >> we were coming. >> i heard about it, but it didn't hold me back. >> you came and have a great time? >> i'm having a great time. >> all right. >> come over there we many right there. >> we'll compton way back. hold this, i'm offduty. let's go. is this your first wife, sir?
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